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Citizen Penrose's avatar

Your post got linked to in an ACX post, this is my comment from there.

"I've spent far too much time in online leftists spaces and the guys still discussing old-school Marxist economics are still mostly comp. sci. professors, physics students etc. But they're a tiny minority of leftism these days .

95%+ of modern leftists are new-left (i.e. woke to left-liberal), and new-left ideology, anti-racism/ anti-sexism, is much accessible/appealing to word-cells. Even most people who call themselves socialists are mostly the left fringe of the new-left.

If you just look at leftist who are most similar to the old left, i.e. pro-central-planning, maybe a bit tankie, or not that interested in social justice, those guys (they'll be almost all guys) will be mostly in STEM. But that's far too small a group to impact the science and engineering world as a whole anymore.

Another thing is that libertarianism is much more prominent and has replaced Marxism as the main highly systemising ideology people get exposed to in their formative years, and people can only fall into one nerd-trap."

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Kevin Munger's avatar

Some nice bon mots in here.

Strong premise. My explanation is that yes the left has done a poor job of explaining their plan—honestly, a poor job planning.

At the highest level this is bc of an almost axiomatic commitment to the medium of text. Meanwhile, technocapital has been eating text, shape rotators by definition longer believe in it, and the world is increasingly amenable to this “post-textual” reason.

https://kevinmunger.substack.com/p/sympathy-for-the-wordcel

Fourcade and Healy’s new book nails this. The ordinal society constructed inductively by high-tech modernism. The decisive left-liberal sacrilege was getting rid of the SAT.

And also this mindset applied to gender/dating/mating is an absolute disaster.

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